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06/16/2021 12:00 PM House LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL

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                 ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                     
                    LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
                       JUNE 16, 2021                                                                                          
                          2:20 PM                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
   MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                            
   Representative Sara Hannan, Chair                                                                                          
   Senator Lora Reinbold, Vice Chair                                                                                          
   Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                
   Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                
   Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                               
   Representative Cathy Tilton                                                                                                
   Representative Chris Tuck                                                                                                  
   Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                       
   Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                       
   Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                             
   Representative Matt Claman                                                                                                 
   Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                      
   Senator Shelley Hughes (alternate)                                                                                         
   Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                     
   Senator Mike Shower                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
   OTHER MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                      
   Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                               
   Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                  
   Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                            
   Representative David Eastman                                                                                               
   Representative Christopher Kurka                                                                                           
   Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                
   Representative Geran Tarr                                                                                                  
   Representative Sarah Vance                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
   AGENDA                                                                                                                     
   CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                              
   APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                                         
   RATIFICATION OF CHARITY EVENTS                                                                                             
   COMMITTEE BUSINESS                                                                                                         
   COMMITTEE BUSINESS  EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                      
   LEASE EXTENSION                                                                                                            
   ADJOURN                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   SPEAKER REGISTER                                                                                                           
   JESSICA GEARY, Executive Director, Legislative Affairs                                                                     
   Agency (LAA)                                                                                                               
   JC KESTEL, Procurement Officer, LAA                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
   2:23:58 PM                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
I.   CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN  called  the  Legislative  Council  meeting  to                                                               
   order  at  2:24PM  in  the  House  Finance  Committee  Room.                                                               
   Present at the  call were:  Representatives Edgmon,  Foster,                                                               
   Hannan, Stutes,  Tilton,  Tuck; Senators  Bishop,  Reinbold,                                                               
   Stedman, Stevens.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
   Members absent:  Representative  Claman;  Senators  Hoffman,                                                               
   Hughes, Micciche, and Shower.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
   Ten members present.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
   2:24:55 PM                                                                                                               
   VICE-CHAIR REINBOLD moved and  asked unanimous consent  that                                                               
 the Legislative Council approve the agenda as presented.                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN, seeing no objections and no changes, moved  on                                                               
   to the next action item.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
III. RATIFICATION OF SANCTIONED CHARITABLE EVENTS                                                                           
        A. KENAI RIVER JUNIOR CLASSICAUGUST 11, 2021                                                                          
        B. TED STEVENS KENAI RIVER CLASSICAUGUST 18, 19, &                                                                    
        20, 2021                                                                                                              
        C. KENAI RIVER WOMEN'S CLASSICSEPTEMBER 9, 10, & 11,                                                                  
        2021                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   2:25:13 PM                                                                                                               
             VICE-CHAIR  REINBOLD  moved  and  asked  unanimous                                                               
             consent  that   Legislative  Council  ratify   the                                                               
             Chair's  sanctioning of  the following  charitable                                                               
             events per  AS 24.60.080 (a)(2)(B):a) Kenai  River                                                               
             Junior  ClassicAugust  11,  2021; b)  Ted  Stevens                                                               
             Kenai  River ClassicAugust   18, 19,  & 20,  2021;                                                               
             and c)                                                                                                           
             Kenai  River Women's  ClassicSeptember  9,  10,  &                                                               
             11, 2021.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN objected  for purposes of  discussion and  said                                                               
   she wanted to  make sure members knew  that the events  that                                                               
   she had previously  sanctioned she had  also verified  their                                                               
   501(c)(3) status. She asked if  there was any discussion  or                                                               
   objection to the motion.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR STEDMAN  asked  what  the  cost of  entry  fees  for                                                               
   elected officials would be for these three events.                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN said she did not recall.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
   VICE-CHAIR REINBOLD said she  had attended them in the  past                                                               
   and that legislators  must submit a  finding of exactly  how                                                               
   much they spent  and put  it on their  disclosure form.  She                                                               
   said it all depends on  what a legislator receives; if  they                                                               
   receive the basket,  if they go fishing  one day, two  days,                                                               
   if they have a guest with them, it varies, she  thought hers                                                               
   was around $400 but could  not recall exactly. She said  she                                                               
   believed she spent a half-day fishing.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR STEDMAN said  that for future  meetings it would  be                                                               
   nice to see  the dollar amount that  would be typical,  even                                                               
   if it was  entertainment, a  play, whatever it  is, so  that                                                               
   members have an idea what kind of value is being  offered to                                                               
   elected officials at the Committee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN  agreed  that  she  would do  that  next  year,                                                               
   assuming she retained her  position as Chair of  Legislative                                                               
   Council. She said she knew  that this was an event that  has                                                               
   been sanctioned for a  number of years  and was not sure  if                                                               
   its prices changed  from year  to year, but  she would  make                                                               
   sure and include those next year.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR  BISHOP  said  that  in  the  future  it   would  be                                                               
   interesting to  see how  much the  dispersion is  for  these                                                               
   nonprofits, such as  the Boy Scouts,  the Girl Scouts,  etc.                                                               
   He said he  was interested to  see a  breakdown of how  that                                                               
   money gets allocated to each group.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN clarified for  her understanding and for  staff                                                               
   direction and said that currently sanctioning of  charitable                                                               
   events  does  not  require  a  follow-up  report  from  that                                                               
   501(c)(3) to  report  back  regarding  their  spending.  She                                                               
   stated that Council sanctions  on the front end rather  than                                                               
   in a report after  the fact. She  asked Ms. Geary to  please                                                               
   confirm.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
   JESSICA  GEARY,  Executive  Director,  Legislative   Affairs                                                               
   Agency, stated that Chair  Hannan was correct; there was  no                                                               
   reporting back  to the  Agency  on events  that  Legislative                                                               
   Council has  sanctioned  or  ratified.  She said  it  was  a                                                               
   separate transaction outside of the Legislature.                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
   VICE-CHAIR REINBOLD said that  if Legislative Council  asked                                                               
   for the breakdown  of the Kenai  River Classic events,  they                                                               
   would have to do it  for all events, including Skits,  which                                                               
   is an event  that she  always struggles with.  She said  she                                                               
   knew it was not sanctioned this year, but if it is  for one,                                                               
   then members must do it for all events.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN asked  if there was  any more discussion.  Upon                                                               
   hearing none, she  removed her objection  and said that  the                                                               
   above events had been ratified for 2021.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
IV.   COMMITTEE BUSINESS                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
     A. AMENDED COVID-19 POLICYPUBLIC ACCESS TO LEGISLATIVE                                                                   
     FACILITIES                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
   2:29:45 PM                                                                                                               
   VICE-CHAIR  REINBOLD  said  that   she  had  questions   and                                                               
   concerns  regarding  this  motion,   but  then  moved   that                                                               
   Legislative Council  adopt  the COVID-19  Mitigation  Policy                                                               
   dated May 14, 2021, amended June 15, 2021.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   VICE-CHAIR REINBOLD said that she thought policy was  moving                                                               
   in a  good  direction in  that  individuals were  not  being                                                               
   forced to  wear face  coverings which  was  great. She  said                                                               
   that there was a policy adopted on May 14 and  the amendment                                                               
   was made June 15,  2021. Under 1,  Section 2, where it  said                                                               
   unvaccinated individuals were strongly encouraged to wear  a                                                               
   mask  in any  public  setting,  so,  that  was  pretty  much                                                               
   someone's  life,  if  a  person  declined  to  wear  a  face                                                               
   covering because of a medical condition or disability,  this                                                               
   policy  did  not  require  proof  in  the  form  of  medical                                                               
   documentation  that was where this  policy used to end.  Now                                                               
   it reads: legislators  and legislative  employees must  work                                                               
   to  the   confidential  ADA   accommodations  process   with                                                               
   Personnel. She  said she  wanted to  make sure  she was  not                                                               
   misinterpreting this in any way. She said she  was concerned                                                               
   that it could  be interpreted that if  a person-a member  of                                                               
   the public,  a legislator,  or anybody  who is  unvaccinated                                                               
   that chooses  to not  wear a  face covering,  that this  may                                                               
   have  some  requirements  to  have  to  go  through  an  ADA                                                               
 process. She then asked for clarification from the Chair.                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN  asked Ms.  Geary to  address the  Vice-Chair's                                                               
   concerns.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   MS. GEARY said  that section is  supposed to  go with 1  "an                                                               
   individual legislative office  or agency  may require  masks                                                               
   be worn  during  the  delivery of  in-person  services"  and                                                               
   because they  would not  be asking  for vaccination  status,                                                               
   there  is  that  statement  strongly  encouraging  masks  to                                                               
   unvaccinated individuals. If  there were  a situation  where                                                               
   somebody wanted  to  mask  in  their office,  and  they  had                                                               
   someone come in  who refused to  wear a  mask, that is  what                                                               
   this  is referencing;  that  one  would  not  have  to  show                                                               
   medical  documentation.  Legislative  employees  should   go                                                               
   through the ADA process, the public need not. That  would be                                                               
   an individual decision for that office.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   VICE-CHAIR REINBOLD  clarified  that the  public  would  not                                                               
   have  to  go  through  this  process,  there  would   be  no                                                               
   segregation  of   the  public   within  the   Capitol   over                                                               
   vaccination status, and  that this would  only apply if  one                                                               
   was going  into someone's  office who  is  requiring a  face                                                               
   covering.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   MS. GEARY said that the Vice-Chair was correct.                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN  noted  that  the  script was  not  updated  to                                                               
   reflect today's date and asked the Vice-Chair to  please re-                                                               
   read the motion with today's date.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
   2:33:29 PM                                                                                                               
   VICE-CHAIR REINBOLD  moved  that Legislative  Council  adopt                                                               
   the COVID-19 Mitigation Policy  dated May 14, 2021,  amended                                                               
   June  16,  2021,  with  recommendations,  suggestions,   and                                                               
   advice that members heard today.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE TILTON asked  who would  be making  decisions                                                               
   for the individual LIOs located in each community.                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
   MS. GEARY said the discretion  for the LIOs was currently  a                                                               
   multi-pronged approach,  so  whatever  was  passed  in  this                                                               
   Committee today would  also apply to  the LIOs. However,  if                                                               
   there  were  an  outbreak  or  a  building  closure,   those                                                               
   individual LIO  officers do  have some  latitude for  making                                                               
   those decisions.  The intent was  that they  would be  fully                                                               
   open  to  the  public  as  before,  but  there  could  be  a                                                               
   situation where a  particular LIO would  have to be  handled                                                               
   slightly  differently.  That  decision  would  be  made   in                                                               
   consultation with herself and the Chair.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE TILTON  confirmed  that  the  policy  overall                                                               
   falls back to the policy  here and the individual LIOs on  a                                                               
   case-by-case basis  and very  rarely  should there  be  some                                                               
   different situation that would  require consultation by  Ms.                                                               
   Geary and... she then asked to be reminded of who  the other                                                               
   consultant for changes would be.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
   MS. GEARY stated that it  would be the Chair of  Legislative                                                               
   Council.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE  TILTON   asked   if   there   would   be   a                                                               
   notification sent  out  to the  individuals who  resided  in                                                               
   that LIO.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   MS. GEARY  said  that  the  intent would  be  that  the  LIO                                                               
   Officer would post  signage or send  an email regarding  the                                                               
   closure.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE TILTON said she  wanted to make sure,  though                                                               
   it might be obvious, that this policy regarding  Legislative                                                               
   facilities opening up to the public included the  Capitol as                                                               
   well.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN confirmed this was true.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE TILTON  thanked her  and said  she wanted  to                                                               
   have that  on  the record  as  this discussion  centered  on                                                               
   LIOs.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR REINBOLD said that looking at the whole policy,  she                                                               
   wanted to  get on  the record  that she  believed there  had                                                               
   been 70-  or 80,000  people who  had COVID-19  who said  the                                                               
   vaccination does not have  any additional benefit. She  said                                                               
   she did  not want  to violate  any Civil  Rights, any  HIPAA                                                               
   laws, she did not want any part of the mask  policy reversed                                                               
   and did not want anybody segregated like what  she described                                                               
   was happening in the stores  such as Costco and Fred  Meyer,                                                               
   even at...                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR  HANNAN  asked  the  Vice-Chair  to  please  keep  her                                                               
   comments to the policy at hand.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
   VICE-CHAIR REINBOLD said that she  wanted to make sure  that                                                               
   did not happen  and she wanted  to have  on the record  that                                                               
   because of so  many people  who have had  COVID, even,  they                                                               
   believe, before  the  test  was available,  in  addition  to                                                               
   doctor's diagnosis, in  addition to the  T-cell test,  which                                                               
   she said she was  getting the next  week and described as  a                                                               
   T-Cell immunity test  that has been approved  by the CDC  as                                                               
   well as  antigen tests  that a  lot of  people with  natural                                                               
   immunity to  COVID and  there  is no  sense in  them  taking                                                               
   that,  so she  wanted  to  make  sure  that  that  is  also,                                                               
   comprehensive natural immunity, is  a very important,  good,                                                               
   long-lasting. She continued that  Cleveland Clinic and  also                                                               
   the Washington  University  have  put  out  some  very  good                                                               
   information in regard to that.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN  asked  if  there were  any  further  questions                                                               
   about the policy.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR BISHOP asked the shelf-life of this policy.                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR  HANNAN  said  she  believed  that  once   Legislative                                                               
   Council instituted  this  policy  it  is  the  policy  until                                                               
   members amended the policy.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
   MS. GEARY confirmed that the Chair was correct.                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR STEVENS  agreed with  the Chair  that some  policies                                                               
   used by members  today go  back years and  remain in  effect                                                               
   until they are changed.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   VICE-CHAIR REINBOLD  said she forgot  to speak  to Item  IV,                                                               
   and said that regarding  close contacts, that sometimes  one                                                               
   might not know if  they were in  close contact or not.  When                                                               
   it says that  the Legislature would  follow CDC  guidelines,                                                               
   obviously it changes a lot,  and that she had concerns  that                                                               
   the Legislature would not be able to keep up with  the ever-                                                               
   changing guidance and would simply  do their best. She  said                                                               
   that, for  the  record, it  may  not  be perfect,  but  that                                                               
   people would  try  to  follow the  guidance,  but  suggested                                                               
   amending "will" to "may" or "try" or something to  allow for                                                               
   space in case it became an issue later.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE  TILTON  spoke  to  her  concern  about   the                                                               
   challenges and complications in following CDC guidelines  by                                                               
   people with  different opinions  about what  CDC  guidelines                                                               
   were. She  wondered  how members  could  take care  of  that                                                               
   going forward and was concerned that the word  "will" leaves                                                               
   no leeway for interpretation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
   MS. GEARY said  one of  the big differences  is that  during                                                               
   session  the   Legislature  had   a  contractor   that   was                                                               
   responsible for ensuring up-to-date  CDC guidance was  being                                                               
   followed. After this special  session, there is no longer  a                                                               
   contractor so  it will  be personal  responsibility for  the                                                               
   individual to work through public health and whatever  means                                                               
   they choose to. She believed  it would be good practice  for                                                               
   the Legislature  to  follow  CDC  guidance,  but  there  was                                                               
   nothing in this policy as far as follow-up  or consequences.                                                               
   She  asked  Representative  Tilton  if  that  answered   her                                                               
   question.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE TILTON said that it helped.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR STEVENS said he  believed members knew this day  was                                                               
   coming, it  had been a  long time  protecting this  building                                                               
   and protecting Legislators and  staff. He thanked Ms.  Geary                                                               
   and her  staff  for  doing  a tremendous  job  limiting  the                                                               
   exposure of  COVID-19 within  the Capitol  Complex. He  said                                                               
   everyone should be very, very proud of this  work, including                                                               
   reaching about  80% vaccination  rates.  He asked  what  the                                                               
   impact of  public access  to  the Capitol  would be  to  the                                                               
   Legislature's contract with Beacon. He also asked Ms.  Geary                                                               
   to help  him understand  that there  will no  longer be  any                                                               
   Beacon staff within the Capitol.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
   MS. GEARY said that  the Legislature's contract with  Beacon                                                               
   would end June 30, but they  had been asked to stay for  the                                                               
   week after  the special  session adjourned  so that  members                                                               
   and staff  traveling back  through  Canada could  get  their                                                               
   pre-travel  testing,  but  that   services  would  be   very                                                               
   limited,  such  as  one   Beacon  employee  strictly   doing                                                               
   testing. She  said  he brought  up  a  good point,  but  she                                                               
   thought this  committee would  need  to make  any  decisions                                                               
   about extending  the contract  to  include testing  for  the                                                               
   public.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR STEVENS thanked Ms. Geary.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE TILTON  asked Ms.  Geary since  the  contract                                                               
   will end  and  there  is another  special  session  planned,                                                               
   there would not  be Beacon employees  at the Capitol  during                                                               
   that time unless Legislative Council enacted a change.                                                                     
   MS. GEARY confirmed that Representative Tilton was  correct;                                                               
   there will  no longer  be a  contract with  Beacon. If  this                                                               
   committee wanted to  contract with Beacon  again that  would                                                               
   be up to  this committee. LAA  would likely recommend  doing                                                               
   an RFP or something  similar, however that is not  currently                                                               
   up for discussion.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE TILTON  thanked Ms.  Geary for  her work  and                                                               
   said this is a day she  had been looking forward to and  had                                                               
   been hoping for  some time to return  access of the  Capitol                                                               
   to the Alaskan public.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN noted that while  it is not in the policy,  the                                                               
   key fobs that staff and legislators have had been  shut down                                                               
   so they only work at two entrances. She said that  when this                                                               
   policy is  amended, it was  her understanding  that the  key                                                               
   fobs would once again work for entrance and egress  from the                                                               
   building.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   MS. GEARY confirmed  that she would  gladly let  Maintenance                                                               
   know that  they  could  reactive everyone's  key  cards  and                                                               
   would send out  a notice to the  building occupants so  they                                                               
   would know they are no longer restricted.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   2:44:43 PM                                                                                                               
   VICE-CHAIR REINBOLD  moved to  amend the  policy to  include                                                               
   after the  word "will"  the word  "strive" under  IV in  the                                                               
   Covid-19 Mitigation Policy.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN asked  if members were  clear on the  amendment                                                               
   and asked if there were any objections.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR STEVENS objected.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   VICE-CHAIR REINBOLD said that committing to guidance  was an                                                               
   absolute commitment, saying  the Legislature was  submitting                                                               
   to the federal  government CDC guidance  did not make  sense                                                               
   to her.  She  thought the  Legislative  body needed  to  set                                                               
   their own policies,  because the CDC  guidance has been  all                                                               
   over the map  on many, many different  things and they  have                                                               
   taken complete U-turns on  many, many things. She  suggested                                                               
   that the  Legislature  could say  they  would not,  or  they                                                               
   would, but  she thought striving  was a  positive word  that                                                               
   moved the policy in the  right direction but would not  hold                                                               
   the Legislature beholden  to the  CDC which  has been  wrong                                                               
   over and over again.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR STEVENS said he  heard what Vice-Chair Reinbold  was                                                               
   saying, but the  CDC has been  the gold  standard of all  of                                                               
   this, and he would  hesitate to change  that in any way.  He                                                               
   thought the way  the policy was written  was just fine,  and                                                               
   members want to  keep protecting this  building as has  been                                                               
   done in the past and make sure there are no  outbreaks here.                                                               
   He was against that amendment.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE  TILTON  said  she   was  in  favor  of   the                                                               
   amendment. She  was looking to  have the  Capitol open,  but                                                               
   believed  that  saying  the  Legislature  would  follow  CDC                                                               
   guidelines  but  then  saying  that  there  is  no  personal                                                               
   responsibility that  we are basing  this on  means that  the                                                               
   word "strive" would be a  better fit. She said the  question                                                               
   earlier  of  how  close  contact  tracing  and  testing  was                                                               
   handled by  a  contractor  became  controversial  and  could                                                               
   become again if the Legislature had locked themselves in  to                                                               
   the word "will."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE TUCK said  that this was  for people who  had                                                               
   tested positive,  and he would  think that  someone who  had                                                               
   tested positive would want  to do everything in their  power                                                               
   to protect others and  protect themselves and it was  really                                                               
   easy to  look up  and see  what the  latest guidelines  are.                                                               
   There is personal  responsibility in that;  to say that  the                                                               
   Legislature would  strive  to  follow  means  that  you  can                                                               
   intentionally fall short but still prove that you  strove to                                                               
   follow guidance. He said  he would prefer  to keep it as  it                                                               
   is,  and at  this  time  he  would  not  be  supporting  the                                                               
   amendment.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
   VICE-CHAIR REINBOLD said  she could give  an example of  her                                                               
   sister, who was a stay-at-home mom, did not-                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN asked  her to keep her  comments to the  motion                                                               
   to amend.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   VICE-CHAIR REINBOLD said that this was pertinent. They  were                                                               
   telling her  what she  could and  could not  do  in her  own                                                               
   home. She said she  was a homeschool  mom who found it  very                                                               
   invasive, the contact tracing,  and that was a violation  of                                                               
   her freedoms  and she  basically asked  them  to step  back.                                                               
   This, she said, she did not want to be told by the  CDC, who                                                               
   some are calling  the Cult of Public  Health, to be  telling                                                               
   people what to do in their individual homes, so  she thought                                                               
   it was a  positive compromise to strive  to follow them  but                                                               
   to be told  that that  the Legislature was  beholden to  the                                                               
   CDC, she thought was just wrong.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN called for a  vote on the motion to amend  Item                                                               
   IV of the Covid-19 Mitigation Policy, adding "strive"  after                                                               
   "will".                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   2:48:57 PM                                                                                                               
   A roll call vote was taken.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
   YEAS: Representative Tilton, Senator Reinbold                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
   NAYS: Representatives Edgmon  Foster, Hannan, Stutes,  Tuck;                                                               
   Senators Bishop, Stedman, Stevens.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
   The amendment failed 2-8.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN removed her  objection from the initial  Covid-                                                               
   19  Mitigation  Policy,  said   that  members  had  had   an                                                               
   opportunity to discuss, and it was time to vote.                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
   2:50:05 PM                                                                                                               
   A roll call vote was taken.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
   YEAS:  Representatives  Edgmon,   Foster,  Hannan,   Stutes,                                                               
Tilton, Tuck; Senators Bishop, Reinbold, Stedman, Stevens.                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   NAYS: none.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
   The motion passed 10-0.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
V. COMMITTEE BUSINESS - EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                   
        A. SPECIAL SESSION PER DIEM                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
   2:50:57 PM                                                                                                               
   VICE-CHAIR REINBOLD moved  that the  Legislative Council  go                                                               
   into  Executive   Session  under   Uniform  Rule   22(b)(3),                                                               
   discussion of a matter that  may, by law, be required to  be                                                               
   confidential. The following  individuals may  remain in  the                                                               
   room or on-line: Jessica  Geary, Sant? Lesh, Megan  Wallace,                                                               
   Emily Nauman, any  Legislators not  on Legislative  Council,                                                               
   and any staff of Legislative Council members.                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
   2:51:23 PM                                                                                                               
   Council went into Executive Session.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   3:19:47 PM                                                                                                               
   Council came out of Executive Session.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
   SPEAKER STUTES moved  Legislative Council authorize  Special                                                               
   Session per diem payments  retroactive to May 20, 2021,  for                                                               
   the First Special Session of the Thirty-Second Alaska  State                                                               
   Legislature.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
   VICE-CHAIR REINBOLD objected.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN said  she would allow members  to speak to  the                                                               
   motion.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   VICE-CHAIR REINBOLD said she  would like to make a  friendly                                                               
   amendment to  the motion  by adding  "physically present  in                                                               
   Juneau" after the word "members."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR STEDMAN objected.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR-HANNAN offered discussion to the amendment.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR STEDMAN  said  that  when members  are  called  into                                                               
   Special Session, all  of their  districts were different  in                                                               
   geographical size, how many mayors, how many  school boards,                                                               
   so on  and so  forth. He  said some  of them  were vast  and                                                               
   spread out  such as  Representatives Foster's  and  Edgmon's                                                               
   districts, with  massive  geographical  districts;  if  they                                                               
   wanted to go back to the district from a Special  Session to                                                               
   be in one  of their district communities,  he did not  think                                                               
   it was fair to  exclude them and  make it a requirement  for                                                               
   them to  be in  Juneau. He  said during  a Special  Session,                                                               
   some members, depending  on committee  assignment and  roles                                                               
   they play, are  busy every day.  He said  a good portion  of                                                               
   members  were not  busy  and  would  go  home  or  to  their                                                               
   district for  meetings, but  must come  back  on a  moment's                                                               
   notice for  meetings in  Juneau which  did  not allow  these                                                               
   members to seek employment  during Special Sessions and  was                                                               
   highly restrictive.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
   Also,  he wanted  to  encourage  a  broad  age  spectrum  of                                                               
   society to  come to  Juneau and  do their  civic duty  which                                                               
   would include men and women with families and children;  and                                                               
   spoke to  the difficulty  of  finding a  home or  rental  in                                                               
   Juneau, let alone  the difficulty in  guessing when  Session                                                               
   might end and find lodging  in advance for the right  amount                                                               
   of time. He  thought it was far  too restrictive to  require                                                               
   that kind  of verbiage,  to be  in Juneau.  Also, he  added,                                                               
   when one files  for per  diem, all records  were public  and                                                               
   the media  always went in  and checked  travel records,  per                                                               
   diem records,  and  they  knew  the ones  who  were  in  the                                                               
   building, who was  present, who worked, who  was in and  out                                                               
   working, and  so on and  so forth.  It would  be noticed  by                                                               
   one's constituents and  the news media if  one was a  loafer                                                               
   and was  collecting per  diem, it  would not  be secret.  It                                                               
   would be  up to  an individual  elected official  and  their                                                               
   constituents to form a  relationship that ensured  continued                                                               
   support for that  elected official. He  said he believed  it                                                               
   was too restricted, the amendment should not be  adopted, he                                                               
   did not think it was in the interest of a broad  spectrum of                                                               
   elected officials  in  Juneau, in  particular  members  with                                                               
   families and members with large geographic districts.                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
   SPEAKER STUTES  said  she  would  echo  the  good  Senator's                                                               
   comments and again  would like  to bring to  light the  fact                                                               
   that when members  went home to  their local communities  it                                                               
   did not mean  they were not  carrying out their  Legislative                                                               
   business. As  an example,  she said  the  Anchorage LIO  was                                                               
   very  active   with   committee   meetings   when   members,                                                               
   particularly from the  Anchorage area,  have access to  that                                                               
   LIO and  that Judiciary  had  several meetings  during  this                                                               
   Special Session out of  Anchorage, so she thought it  unfair                                                               
   to  "punish them,"  so  to  speak,  when  they  were  indeed                                                               
   carrying out State business outside of Juneau.                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR STEVENS  said that  COVID-19 had  really taught  the                                                               
   country some lessons, that  many people were forced to  work                                                               
   outside their offices,  work at home, and  while he did  not                                                               
   want  that   to  happen   in  the   Legislature  too   much,                                                               
   occasionally legislators have had meetings in which  members                                                               
   had  been out  of  the  building,  either  at  their  Juneau                                                               
   lodging or their  District homes,  but participated  online.                                                               
   It seemed to him  that members had  a good honor system,  it                                                               
   had worked well  in the past,  where they  had put down  the                                                               
   per diem they thought they deserved, and it was  reviewed by                                                               
   staff  and the  public.  He  thought  leaving  out  the  "in                                                               
   Juneau" would be a job well done for members.                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
   VICE-CHAIR REINBOLD  said she  thought the  public was  very                                                               
   disappointed because  of  the budget  and the  reduction  of                                                               
   PFD, she thought the Legislature  was on very thin ice  with                                                               
   the ethics law.  The Legislature, she said,  was not on  the                                                               
   road system  so travel  is  very expensive.  She  understood                                                               
   that  especially  during   tourist  season   the  cost   was                                                               
   prohibitive, but she also  believed the intent for per  diem                                                               
   is why  members were in  Juneau for  the most  part, so  she                                                               
   remained  in support  of  her  amendment  but  was  open  to                                                               
   further discussion at a future date.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN saw no further discussion and asked for  a vote                                                               
   on the above amendment.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   3:26:42 PM                                                                                                               
   A roll call vote was taken.                                                                                                
   YEAS: Senator Reinbold.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   NAYS:  Representatives  Edgmon,   Foster,  Hannan,   Stutes,                                                               
   Tilton, Tuck; Senators Bishop, Stedman, Stevens.                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
   The amendment failed 1-9.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN called for a vote on the main motion.                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
   3:27:30 PM                                                                                                               
   A roll call vote was taken.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
   YEAS:  Representatives  Edgmon,   Foster,  Hannan,   Stutes,                                                               
   Tilton, Tuck; Senators Bishop, Stedman, Stevens.                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
   NAYS: Senator Reinbold.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   The motion passed 9-1.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
VI.   LEASE EXTENSION                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
        A. FAIRBANKS LIO                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
   3:28:18 PM                                                                                                               
   VICE-CHAIR  REINBOLD  moved  that  the  Legislative  Council                                                               
   approve Renewal No. 1 of the lease for the  Fairbanks office                                                               
   space in the amount of $206,312.16.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN objected for  purposes of discussion and  asked                                                               
   Mr. JC Kestel, LAA  Procurement Officer, to come forward  to                                                               
   speak to the Fairbanks lease extension.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   JC KESTEL, Procurement Officer, Legislative Affairs  Agency,                                                               
   said the current lease  agreement between AlaskaUSA  Federal                                                               
   Credit Union and the  Legislative Affairs Agency for  office                                                               
   space in  Fairbanks will terminate  July 31,  2021. He  said                                                               
   there were five  lease renewal  options available under  the                                                               
   lease agreement,  each for a  one-year period.  He said  the                                                               
   Agency  was  seeking   Legislative  Council's  approval   to                                                               
   proceed with Renewal No. 1  for the lease for the period  of                                                               
   August 1,  2021,  through  July  31,  2022.  If  Legislative                                                               
   Council approved  Renewal No.  1 of  the lease,  he said  it                                                               
   would leave four one-year renewal options remaining and  the                                                               
   renewal period  would exceed  $35,000  in one  fiscal  year,                                                               
   therefore Legislative Council's approval would be  required.                                                               
   Attached to the  memorandum, he said,  was additional  lease                                                               
   information and he  would be happy  to answer any  questions                                                               
   that members had. He noted one small mistake he had  made on                                                               
   the lease  information sheet: at  the top  in the  occupants                                                               
   section, it listed that  there was staff for  Representative                                                               
   Tuck at  this LIO,  however,  that staff  member was  now  a                                                               
   staff member for Representative Kriess-Tomkins.                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR  STEVENS   said   when   he   was   Chair   Hannan's                                                               
   predecessor, this council  dealt a lot  with this  Fairbanks                                                               
   issue and that office space and members went back  and forth                                                               
   several times about  the others in  Fairbanks who wanted  to                                                               
   have offices in North Pole,  so at one point the North  Pole                                                               
   offices were going to be  let go, and then at another  point                                                               
   it was going to be kept.  He then asked Mr. Kestel to  bring                                                               
   the Council  up to  date on  what other  offices were  being                                                               
   occupied in Fairbanks for staff.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
   MR. KESTEL said  the North Pole  office was still  occupied,                                                               
   and he believed it was in the process of being moved  out of                                                               
   by Representative Prax's  office and  staff, and they  would                                                               
   be relocating  into the Fairbanks  LIO. He  said that  after                                                               
   the election,  there  was a  vacancy  in the  Fairbanks  LIO                                                               
   caused by  the  Representative from  District  6  requesting                                                               
   office space within his district in Tok. That left  an empty                                                               
   office  in  Fairbanks,  allowing  for  savings  to  relocate                                                               
   Representative Prax into the  Fairbanks LIO, and as of  June                                                               
   30, he projected that they  would be fully moved out of  the                                                               
   North Pole office.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR STEVENS thanked Mr. Kestel.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
   VICE-CHAIR  REINBOLD  wanted  to  hear  from  the  Fairbanks                                                               
   members.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR BISHOP  said that he  hated moving  and noted  there                                                               
   was a savings of $897 in this one year lease from  the prior                                                               
   year's lease with  the CPI adjustment  going the other  way.                                                               
   He asked  if  a two-year  option  was considered  since  the                                                               
   number is going south.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
   MR. KESTEL  said that  LAA had  not looked  at the  two-year                                                               
   option because  of the  way the  leases are  structured;  it                                                               
   would require an  amendment with the  landlord and for  them                                                               
   to agree to a two-year  renewal period and that attempt  was                                                               
   not made.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR BISHOP spoke about  the Representative from Tok  and                                                               
   how he wished he was still in the Fairbanks LIO and  that it                                                               
   seemed  closer  for  him  and  to  different  parts  of  his                                                               
   district.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN made a joke  about hunting and the member  from                                                               
   Tok and members laughed. She then said that  Senator Stedman                                                               
   was next to speak.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR  STEDMAN   said   that  if   he   heard   correctly,                                                               
   Representative Kreiss-Tomkins  was  going to  have  a  staff                                                               
   member in Fairbanks.  He then made a  joke followed by  more                                                               
   laughter.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN  made  a joke  then  asked  if there  was  more                                                               
   discussion, and  upon hearing  none, removed  her  objection                                                               
   from the motion and requested a vote.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
   3:34:15 PM                                                                                                               
   A roll call vote was taken.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
   YEAS:  Representatives  Edgmon,   Foster,  Hannan,   Stutes,                                                               
 Tilton, Tuck; Senator Bishop, Reinbold, Stedman, Stevens.                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   NAYS: none                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
   The motion passed 10-0.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
VII. ADJOURN                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN said there was nothing further on the agenda                                                                  
   and adjourned.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
   3:34:54 PM